A few weeks ago, I sat in my advisor’s office talking about this current semester and about the woes I was having about classes (which, fortunately, have all worked out now.) We eventually got onto the subject about blogging and I had mentioned to her a few of the people I managed to have discussions with or read about through blogging and how I think it was a really great thing and that it was something that I felt expanded my knowledge of primatology tenfold. Unlike a lot of my peers in the same class, I was often giving the most recent information in the field in some examples–sometimes even information that came out just hours previous to the class meeting on the day of the class.
Yet, despite all of the positive things I could list that came from being able to have this blog, all my advisor did was express she did not read any of the blogs, some questioning over my status as an undergraduate and mentioned that sometimes, it wasn’t appropriate–although, there were some examples of good blogs such as John Hawks Weblog. (Who was partially the inspiration for this.) All in all, I’d say I was frightened for the result–but not surprised and even thankful I didn’t get chided as if I were a naughty child in the cookie jar before dinnertime.
When I read Dr. Kate Clancy’s article over at Context and Variation on the subject as women sciencebloggers under their own name, I began to think about my own background. Certainly, I wouldn’t go as far as to say I’ve experienced a lot of she has felt; and I only use my first name sometimes while preferring to keep my real name hidden. But, I would say that it definitely made me think about my experiences as an undergraduate female blogger: why I did it and why I want to keep doing it, even if it has some potential negative consequences.
Bold, Ambitious, and Paranoid.
It was perhaps naive (I think I took the “Be bold. Be ambitious. Be a little bit of a bitch.” advice to heart before I even knew that I should be doing it), but I wasn’t sheepish about telling my advisor I had a blog; I came right out with it for a lot of reasons, though I never told her the address of it or the name for reasons I perceived to be apathy. One, I wanted to test the waters for professional reasons–is it wise for an undergraduate to even attempt blogging? Clearly, I don’t have a lot of credentials to my name other than I’m doing my best to try and learn about the subject from someone more educated. But, after taking a course where blogging was one of the methods of receiving a grade, I was a little more comfortable with this idea. Still, there are plenty of times where I feel sheepish about writing some posts because–well, what if I don’t have the credibility to be saying some of these things? what if I have someone with more credibility suggest that I obviously had no idea what I was talking about and that I’d be “academically blacklisted” or something of the like in my mind. And, for someone that potentially wants to get even more education in the subject–that has some scary ramifications.
The second reason I told her was because, while primatology is a female-friendly science; at the time when I first started this blog, the first few blogs I found on the subject (or the more popular ones, I should say) were The Prancing Papio and The Primate Diaries; both of which are run by male bloggers. Initially, I tried to blog gender neutrally because I had every intention of being taken seriously and well–when you see that two of the more famous primatology bloggers are male, perhaps it was better to hide your gender. That, and for privacy reasons related to being an undergraduate–aside from wanting to have some anonymity in case some professor I wanted to work with disapproved–what if my advisor disapproved? If she did, would she write about it in any letters of recommendation or any of the like? Would I be cast out of her good graces? I had a lot of paranoid thoughts.
But then, I thought about it and realized I wanted to stand out as a female undergraduate who was really passionate in the subject and could articulate information on the subject effectively so that both primatologists and people not necessarily trained could understand what I was trying to convey because I knew it would be an essential tool later on in my future career–no matter where or what I do.
And the third point as to why I told her, like suggested above, was for professional development reasons. Initially, I also had every intention of using this to one day stand out from the rest of the pack in my graduate school applications. I wanted to use this as proof that I wanted to go into primatology; not because of all teh ky00t orangutans and animaws that I can watch and play with all day!!1 or something to that effect. If you get to watch orangutans–great! But I’m not here doing this for the cutesy factor some perceive women to be doing in primatology (which is incredibly patronizing.) I’m here doing this because I think primatology is critical to understanding ourselves as an animal species, and, equally as critical to maintaining our own survivability as what affects other primates will likely affect us (re: environmental health, global warming, climate change, etc.)

Two female chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes); one teaches and the other learns, much like an undergraduate from her professor (Photo courtesy: Yerkes National Primate Research Center)
I’d also be lying if I didn’t have the idea that I wanted to see what other scientists were doing because maybe, just maybe, I’d find someone doing something just that one thing that might be what I want to do and maybe, just maybe, I’d be able to form a connection with them and make myself a more appealing candidate in terms of as a future graduate student, a volunteer for research projects, or whatever else. I know I have a relatively good background for someone in my field at this point in academic status–I’ve got a rock star advisor, rock star graduate student mentor, experience in research in both captivity and field, leadership experience in a professional organization, and I’ve had enough classes that I’ve been told I’ve maximized all the primate-relevant courses available at my university. From this, I can put into practice and show what I’ve learned from these classes and further tell others why I’d make a great candidate to be their graduate student.
I pay a lot of attention to what the Ph.D.s and graduate students have to say on their blogs because I know what will affect them will, in turn, affect me–if not now, then later down the road. I pay attention to a lot of individuals who aren’t in my direct field (Anthropology) because I know that some of the issues they face will probably be what I will experience one day too, if I decide to go into academia (which, ultimately, is what I’d like despite knowing it’s over-saturated.)
But, until then, I’m still an undergraduate and I know my place: to learn, to build a starting resume, and build some relationships; all of which I can do with blogging. I know I’ve got a lot to learn, but I think doing this can help me learn those things faster and more effectively.
Excellent post! I started blogging as a graduate and it saved my sanity. It has helped me expand my network and build one partly independently of what my supervisors have been prepared to introduce me to. It has helped me enormously both personally and in my career – directly and indirectly. I have always blogged under my real name and I don’t regret that for a minute.
Keep at it.
Thank you kindly!
I’m so glad to hear such a fond response! (I swear I’m not an exclamation mark junkie.) Out of curiosity, do you think you would be doing as well professionally and personally if you didn’t use your real name? Or has it been really helpful? I don’t mean to sound like such a downer with these questions, either. I’m always curious to hear the responses from people in these situations; it’s something I’ve been kicking around for awhile myself, but always get too scared about doing. I think it’s pretty admirable to do so under your own name and I’m definitely glad and grateful for the feedback you’ve provided.
You keep it up. If you want this enough to make a career out of it, you need to do everything you can to be ahead of the pack. Primatology is a field of public engagement by necessity.
Next step: Find something interesting, write it up and pitch the story to an editor somewhere.
Thank you so much, Dr. Hawks!
I’ll definitely start looking into this. I appreciate the advice and the encouragement!
Never let anyone tell you what you can’t do. It is perfectly acceptable for undergrads to have a blog (I started when I was halfway through undergrad).
A lot of professors are skeptical about blogs, much like how they are skeptical about Wikipedia. You just need to know how to check for facts.
Keep at it girl … you’re doing a GREAT job!
Oh, thank you, darling!
I mean, I was being a little too paranoid–but I’m glad to hear I was that rather than being wrong, you know? And I’m glad I can do this, otherwise I’d never had made the contacts I did or learn as much as I have.
FYI- you are one of my favorite “monkeybloggers” because you write about interesting things at a level that is understandable to the layperson. If *you* are getting something out of the experience, then that’s all that matters!
Reading the blogs helps me keep up with the literature in a way that I couldn’t do if I had to read the original papers each and every day. I think sometimes professors may be a little shy of technology that they don’t “get,” so if I had to guess, that’s where your professor may be coming from.
I also get nervous about being a lady blogger sometimes too, and while I don’t advertise it, I don’t shy away from mentioning in individual posts of mine either. It’s always a little bit of a chuckle when people assume I’m a man, anyway!
Thank you so much! That’s a wonderful compliment and I’m extremely flattered as you’re one of my favorite bloggers as well!
Your points are definitely true; my advisor is a little weary of technology and it doesn’t surprise me that that might play a role. An indirect result of that (though, not because of her–but rather, the weariness) is that if I ever become a professor, I’d like to welcome technology a little more into my classroom. Some other professors on my campus have used blogs for writing assignments and the like, and I think it can be used as a great method for teaching. I always like to think of things that I could be doing differently that might have an impact on learning and help others perceive things better and that’s what I’ve been doing here.
And hearing that I can make this accessible *and* interesting? I’m most definitely a nice shade of red now. Thank you, again.
I really think people (especially in the so called “scientific community”) underestimate how much you can learn from writing a Blog.
In the two years I’ve been writing my Blog, it not only helped me to improve my knowledge about my field and (hopefully) to improve my writing. I also learned the importancy of courage, be it in science or life in general. Fact is, you will never know how good some of your Ideas are if you just keep them for yourself, so the best way to learn new stuff, is to talk about it with other people.
It also forces you to state an opinion and what’s more important, to stand behind it. This is something where many of my peers have problems with.
Personally I think, even if some people might disapprove that you’re writing a Blog, they still got to admit the courage it takes to step into the public with your own thoughts.
So, keep it up.
P.S.: Why do I always stumble upon these interesting posts when it’s already way past bedtime?
P.P.S.: @Zinjanthropus: From my experience on the Internet (+3500 hours of playing a MMORPG among other things) it’s always safer to assume those other people you meet are male, it helps to avoid unpleasant situations.
I agree with that! I never actually realized it myself until my last semester class when someone would be talking about something and just a few minutes later, I’d have my hand raised and shooting off (in that really annoying know-it-all type of attitude, I’m sure), “Weeeeeeell, that’s true, but so-and-so recently published in article in X journal about Y …” I don’t mean to be that person, but–I do like to keep things consistent and be fresh, you know?
It also really put me ahead in terms of being able to actually do literature searches, too. I mean, I’ve never really been a slouch at that considering that was my actual job for two and a half years, but it really developed the ability to cite things (in APA format off the top of my head without looking back at a reference book) but also my writing style. Looking back, I’m kind of impressed with how much it’s grown over the past year.
Also, I have that problem of finding things right before I should be going to bed. It’s such an issue because I just like learning way too much for my own good. Le sigh!
I know what you mean. One of my professors (the one, almost everybody is afraid of- although I don’t know why) doesn’t even ask me questions anymore. He even stated once that because of my blog, he won’t bother me with the question whether or not I read a certain article. By the way, this is how I found out that he knew that I was writing a Blog.
In the end I was quite happy that he only made two stupid jokes about it and not started telling me that my posts only contain populistic nonsense and that I didn’t get the facts straight. But I’m still feeling a little uncomfortable about it. It’s like I’m being watched, although I’m pretty sure he doesn’t read my blog on a regular basis.
Lovely post! I liked seeing your thinking and motivation behind why you blog. And I’m with John: we need to do what it takes to get ahead these days. Having some writing experience under your belt (regardless of whether, say, an editor pitch results in a pub or not) will make you a better writer, which will put you ahead of many, many candidates for grad school. If you can articulate why you want to be an anthropologist beyond “I love teh monkeys,” you are doing something important on this blog! ๐
Thank you so much for your thoughts and advice!
I think I can articulate beyond the “monkays are just so kyoot” factor just fine, it’s the other part that’s going to be a little tricky. As far as publishing goes, obviously, it would be best to get into a journal of some sort, but how does one go about that without any actual data or field work at their disposal? (I am but a poor, financially drained senior … woe!) Or, although not as potentially impressive, would it also do as well to get published in something like (just throwing these out there), Mongabay, Grist, or any online-based news that might be relevant?
I appreciate your helpful advice and even moreso for your original article–it really did make me think and I’m definitely going to be taking your advice to heart. ๐
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What a great post! I’m sorry that your adviser was not more interested in your blog. When I joined my current lab, I let my adviser know ahead of time that I have a blog, because I didn’t want her to find out some other way and be upset that I hadn’t told her. Thankfully, she is completely on board with it — she even included a link in the letter of reference she wrote about me for my latest grant application! (I was rather surprised by that… wonder what the reviewers thought?) I think of blogging as a great way to hone my writing skills, which only become more important as you progress through your scientific career.
My research has nothing to do with primatology, but if you are at all interested in graduate school at Emory someday, feel free to drop me a line and I’m happy to talk about it with you. I can also put you in touch with my more monkey-minded colleagues.
Keep writing!
Emory is kind of like the big leagues and one of the places I’d love to go to one day. You can expect an e-mail in the near future! ๐ Thank you so, so much for your thoughts and offer.
In my experience, many students in the early phase of their careers gain entry into scholarly publication by writing a book review in their field. Many technical journals have Newsletters associated with them, and that would be a good start. There are, also, journals specifically targeted for the dissemination of students’ work. If you don’t have data for an empirical paper, you might consider submitting a commentary, an “idea” piece, or book review. Another type of venue to consider would be one of your college’s/university’s publications. Most academic institutions sponsor at least one magazine, etc. publishing, say, interviews with alumni/ae or with professors conducting interesting research. Another possibility would be to contact your local newspaper for possible opportunities to write one or more Op Eds popularizing work in your field that is of interest to you and/or describing your experiences and what you have learned as an undergraduate blogger. Of course, aside from the benefits gained from publication that you and your commentators have made already, an additional gain is visibility. Bon chance.
This is great advice! Thank you so much; this is exactly what I was looking for. Unfortunately, my university doesn’t have one to my knowledge, but I’ll definitely be looking at other venues and try and do something.
A bit late to the party, but I can’t resist putting my 2 cents in. Don’t let one or two professors who don’t like blogs intimidate you. You would be surprised at the number of professors who do like blogs. For example, William Jungers emailed me an article I had mentioned wanting in a post. Over at Anthropology.net a post on the death of Charles Lockwood attracted a veritable who’s who of paleoanthropology. The point is that, in addition to the above benefits, blogs are a great way to network with others in the field from undergrads to professors.
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